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Israel’s right to self-defense: What will the gentiles say?

Opinion: Foreign countries condemning Israeli retaliation against Hamas' murderous attack on October 7 prove the world will always find a fault with Israel's morality, no matter how just
Dr. Joel Fishman|
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Once again, Israel’s use of force in self-defense has disturbed a certain type of political leader with pretensions of moral superiority. It has been reported that Pope Francis warned Israel’s President Isaac Herzog in a telephone conversation that it is “forbidden to respond to terror with terror.”
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A statement of this type misses the mark and fails to draw a distinction between real terrorists and their victims, who exercise their recognized legal right to self-defense. There is no parity here. In plain talk, this approach is called “both-sideism.” Two legal scholars, David Rivkin and Peter Berkowitz, analyzed this phenomenon in the Wall Street Journal of December 13, 2024.
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תיעוד מפעילות לוחמי חטיבת הצנחנים בחאן יונס
תיעוד מפעילות לוחמי חטיבת הצנחנים בחאן יונס
IDF soldiers in the Gaza Strip
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They called it an example of “primitive pacificism,” because it fails to take into account the Catholic Church’s own theory with regard to the “Just War,” which Israel is now fighting.
There is another problem. The Holy Father’s admonition reflects a failure of compassion, but he has company. After the massacre of October 7, António Guterres, secretary-general of the United Nations, declared that, as a consequence of the “occupation,” Israel got what it deserved.
In addition, the president of Brazil, Luiz Ignácio Lula da Silva, accused Israel of genocide, comparing Israel’s war with the Hamas terror group in Gaza to "the Holocaust ‘when Hitler decided to kill the Jews.’” And don't forget the initiative of the South African government to bring a case before the International Court of Justice at The Hague accusing Israel of genocide.
Chief Rabbi of South Africa, Warren Goldstein, declared that “If Israel’s war is not just, there has never been a just war,” and accused his government of being Iran’s “useful idiots.”
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International Court of Justice at The Hague
(Photo: REUTERS/Piroschka van de Wouw)
The inability of Israel to satisfy the world’s critics of its morality dates back more than half a century. In January 1961, as reported in newspapers in Montreal, prominent British historian Professor Arnold Toynbee “compared from a moral standpoint, the attitude of Israel to the Arabs in 1947 and 1948 with the Nazi slaughter of six million Jews.”
He was also quoted as saying that “the Jews have no historical right to Israel.” In response, Israel’s ambassador to Canada, Yaakov Herzog, challenged Toynbee to a debate, which took place at McGill University on January 31, 1961.
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Charles de Gaulle
Charles de Gaulle
Charles de Gaulle
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During this debate, Ambassador Herzog made a memorable statement, which has retained its validity:
"But how can two events – the destruction of one-third of our people and the Arab refugee problem created by a war started by the Arabs themselves – be mentioned in the same breath? Shall we pass an amendment to article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations on the right of self-defense: an amendment to say that if you are attacked you may resist, but remember, no matter what you suffer in the process, if the man attacking you suffers, you will be condemned by history as having been affected by Nazi influence."
Among such outrageous statements, we must include French President Charles de Gaulle’s infamous press conference of November 28, 1967 in which he characterized Jews as “an elite people, self-assured and domineering.”
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Dr. Raymond Aron wrote that this statement broke a taboo, making public expression of antisemitism acceptable again. At the same time, Aron wrote that de Gaulle “went over to the Arab camp.” Enough time has passed for us to appreciate the consequences of his decision. With the benefit of hindsight, it is clear that he was unfair to Israel and, even more so, to his motherland.
Statements and deeds of this type are not entirely surprising, but they are disappointing because they lack compassion for the real victims of premeditated war crimes on a massive scale. In their condemnation of Israel’s right to self-defense, these connoisseurs of morality betray the Judeo-Christian values of Western civilization, condone barbarism and appease its perpetrators.
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Too nice
Israel is way to nice. Keep your nice flowery words for distracting debates in useless pretentious houses of evil. Make the deeds count. Utterly destroy evil. Spare no evil person or institution. Knowing full well evil stalks fhe land and all you have achieved is destroying one bastard child of many.
Ralph| 03.09.24
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Just war
To answer the comments of the first three posters: War is an unfortunate, ugly thing ignited by leaders of a government who gamble that they have the right cards for success. Wars can be first strike without without provocation or defensively pre-emptive. Most of the time they have the patriotic approval of the respective populations. Nazi Germany in May of 1945 was utterly destroyed after a war it provoked while incidently murdering perhaps a third of the world's jews of the time. At the end of the war in Germany there was scarcely one brick left joined to another, and most of the German population was homeless, hungry and ill clothed for quite some time. As well, after two world wars there was a scarcity of German males between the ages of 13 and 65, representing those who never came home. During the war propaganda minister Goebbles spun all sorts of things, including the deaths of noncombatants. Hamas, without provocation, murdered more than a thousand Israelis. What is proportionate? You slap me, I slap you. You hit me with a stick, I hit you with a stick. You pull out a pistol and fire... War is something not to be played as an elementary school game. The enemy government and armed forces have to be unquestionably neutralized and the population which supported the defeated government's actions need to be thoroughly demoralized, otherwise the war will never end. What is a "just war?" It can be argued that the victor determines the definition, I hold there is no such thing as a "just war," but hopefully there is a cessation of the evil that provokes any war. In any case, most of those who experience war will return every night to the war they fought until the day they die.
Christopher| 03.01.24
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Protected class?
I'm not really sure about the reference to "gentiles," am I supposed to offended? But, getting past the thin skin there is something at least in parallel concerning "criminal justice" as being pushed in europe and the US and the Israeli - hamas war. Criminals of a protected class are virtually given carte blanche to create any sort of mayhem with impunity, but if someone of unprotected status were to defend themselves against someone of protected status the unprotected person would swiftly be subject to the full extent of the law and then some. This isn't entirely universal but it's true enough. While there may not be a direct connection to the Israel - hamas "conflict," it's the same mentality.
Chet| 02.29.24
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